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American Violence: From Charlie Kirk to Global Conflicts
The shooting of Charlie Kirk sends shockwaves through American political discourse, revealing uncomfortable truths about how we process violence when it strikes close to home. Within minutes of the attack, videos spread across social media platforms with unprecedented speed—former President Trump announced Kirk's death before many news outlets had confirmed it. The tragedy takes on a disturbing dimension as we learn about an emerging pattern: killers writing messages on ammunition as part of their manifestos, creating a macabre subculture that feeds on notoriety and imitation.
Perhaps the most striking aspect of this conversation is the painful irony surrounding Kirk's own words. He previously stated that "if a few people get shot every year to maintain our protected Second Amendment rights... that's just the cost of doing business." This statement forces us to confront difficult questions about accountability in political rhetoric. When public figures normalize violence as an acceptable cost for ideological positions, what responsibility do they bear when that violence eventually touches them directly? While no one deserves to be a victim, there's a legitimate conversation about the relationship between inflammatory rhetoric and real-world consequences.
Meanwhile, the world continues spinning beyond our borders. Israel's strike on Qatar under the pretense of peace negotiations, Nepal's youth-led revolution toppling their government through TikTok-organized protests, and Russia's drone incursion into Polish airspace all signal a world where boundaries are increasingly being tested. These developments, coupled with advances in quantum technology that could revolutionize warfare by making submarines detectable through magnetic signatures, remind us that even as domestic tragedies capture our attention, the global landscape is shifting in ways that demand our vigilance.
What responsibility do we bear for the words we speak and the culture we create? Join us as we navigate these complex waters and search for meaningful answers in a world where violence increasingly feels normalized. Subscribe now and become part of a conversation that matters.
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face. My name is Adam Gillard. I am your co-host, along here with Dick Wilkinson. How you doing, dick? Good morning, adam Doing well, all right. Left face is the Pikes Peak Regions political podcast from a veteran's point of view. Today we're going to jump right into it and start talking about. You know, the big elephant in the room, as Dick called it, charlie Kirk, got shot yesterday. It was crazy how quickly the videos. One thing my wife mentioned was like his kids are going to see all those videos and everything like that it was horrific seeing it it was.
Speaker 2:And yes, the news spread so fast, like faster than the normal burn on social media.
Speaker 1:I heard somewhere that Trump was like the first one. He was the first one to announce his death, which is crazy, yeah, because it was almost simultaneous that netanyahu mentioned something about his death also.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah so I mean, uh, I knew that charlie kirk had got shot. I had already saw some, you know, within. It was fast, right, like less than from the time he got shot. Then that news news broke within minutes, two, three minutes, it seemed like. And then what? 25, 30 minutes later, donald Trump announced that he had died to you know like one of his personal security detail or somebody that was there on site with his manager like his you know his event manager that goes out and sets this stuff up.
Speaker 2:They must've called them right away I'm assuming it was somebody that was in the car with him on the way to the hospital because they had that level of knowledge of what was going on.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, after seeing that video, there's no way of surviving. Oh no, you know, even if that happened, like in an ER, like surrounded by surgeons, like you're probably not surviving that. Yeah, just absolutely horrific that you know again. You know political violence. You know we don't know who's done it. The person's still on the hunt for the FBI, still on the hunt.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I mean we have a and still on the hunt for the FBI, still on the hunt. But you know, I mean we have a A trend I heard about this morning that's coming up in more and more shootings, that I guess what's it called the medical CEO, the guy that shot him, Luigi. He wrote on the bullets that he used to shoot him and all the rounds in the magazine had like messages etched into him so that his part of his you know manifesto basically was what those bullets meant.
Speaker 1:Right it was the defend dispose yeah yeah, and it had.
Speaker 2:Those were terms from how to get rid of a insurance claim, like how they deny it was yeah, so uh, anyway, since then, and again, this is just sick how this stuff happens. But the copycat aspect now is write messages on your bullets and then when they find the weapon, and they find the rounds and everything like, it'll tell part of your story. So that happened in this event as well. The weapon that they recovered out of the woods, it had ammunition in it and ammunition was found near it, right, and all that stuff was marked up with language that's associated with the shooter, right, but they haven't said anything about what that is. But it's on trend for, like you know, I guess, people that are being radicalized by watching things online, that's something that is basically just become an underground trend. Yeah, you know, and so yeah.
Speaker 2:It's just, it's so upsetting because there's a whole subculture of young people that you know I don't want to say necessarily some of them glorify the actions of some of these people, right, and the fact that there could be that there's so many events, that there's so many tragedies like this, that there's basically trends for the killers to follow, right, tragedies like this, that there's basically trends for the killers to follow, right, like wow, wow, how far away from like normalcy are, are we?
Speaker 1:that's what's going on yeah, yeah, that you actually have a large enough pool to to pull from and I think you know, in the us so far this year there's been over like 400 mass shootings, sure, um, even yesterday, yesterday, there was one here in Colorado At a school yeah, at a school that just got drowned out. It's so frustrating because this is what we scream about on the left all the time and you know we get demonized when we try to, you know, keep people safe and keep, you know, some of these guns out of people that are wanting to harm people. Yeah, you know, because you know some of these guns out of people's that are wanting to harm people. You know, uh, cause, you know, we just stopped a kid I can't remember where he was at, but, uh, he had a bunch of uh 3d printed guns. Oh, yeah, yeah. And uh, atf or FBI just stopped that one. Yeah, um, yeah, oh.
Speaker 2:I know which one you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, it was a student age person that said had ready to go and they just stopped him before he actually executed the stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and there's a whole culture. I mean going all the way back to the Columbine one. You know that was. You know big here, yeah, was that 99?. You know, those kids are like heroes to some of these.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I'm referring to is that they kind of started that subculture of hero worship for, like evening the score for, you know the person who's downtrodden in their mind, right, or that society is like I'll cast them and then they get to even the score, yeah. And so they look to these situations where they're inspired, you know, by other killers. The. With the Charlie Kirk situation you know he will address a little bit you know I don't want to, I obviously is politically motivated shooting, no matter what. Like there's no way about it, how this person they could be, some it could, they could be Viva La Revolution from 1960s, argentina.
Speaker 2:Like there's some, I don't know who, it is Right, I don't know if it's American liberal, I don't know if it's American liberal, I don't know if it's somebody, it's a false flag. Like you know, there's conspiracy abound in that. But we got to address some of the. I'll call it irony that you know Charlie Kirk was quoted as saying if a few people get shot every year to maintain our protected Second Amendment rights, like that's, that's just the cost of doing business. Freedom is messy, freedom is ugly, yeah, and freedom, you know, may hurt people, yeah, he said that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I've heard that echoed with my friends, Like I was hanging out with a guy who just had his first baby and I'm holding his son and there was a school shooting somewhere and he just said cost of freedom yeah, like, dude, like you have a child now, yeah, like that's going to be going to these schools and like have to go through drills, it's defenseless as well, right.
Speaker 2:Like that child is just going to be afraid, with no way to control or do anything about that danger.
Speaker 1:Well, and what's crazy is they're not even so much afraid day to day now, Like they're so used to it, Like they'll like crack up and make jokes during the drills and things like that, and like it's just crazy that they the the weight that we've put on these kids now.
Speaker 2:But yeah, so the thing for me is um, I want to let people be responsible for their actions, right, like I. Like, I'm okay with accountability and responsibility for your actions. And saying inflammatory things, those are words, those that's protected free speech. Saying inflammatory things, those are words, that's protected free speech. I get that. But the act of inflamming people, the act of being brash and being over the top, right, like you are incensing people on purpose, right, and that's an act. That's a verb, right, it's not just words and it's protected act.
Speaker 2:But if you are, if you're a grown man that is willing to step out on stage and say some people are going to get shot to maintain this freedom, you have put your name on that list of people. You're willing. You're willing to be shot to protect that freedom. If you see that other people are dispensable to protect the freedom, you are too, yeah, bottom line, right, and so that's the invitation to.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying get shot or be killed, but if you are espousing rhetoric that says some people are going to get shot to maintain this freedom, yeah, yeah, then there's some amount of sympathy or love that is lost when that terrible thing happens to you, from both the big cultural perspective and down to the individual level. You look at somebody and go there. There there's some responsibility or very least complicitness in the whole situation of, yeah, people get shot, and that's just part of living in America and saying we're going to accept that, we're not going to do anything about it, and that's just part of living in America and saying we're going to accept that we're not going to do anything about it and that's just going to be the state of play. Then you're accepting that your life is in danger as well, and so my sympathy ends right there at that line Of like. You know, that was your own mentality of how you view the world and you want to live in that world. So you get to reap the benefits of the world that you live in, right?
Speaker 2:And that you create and cultivate for yourself. He cultivated a culture where I'm not saying people are encouraged to murder, but that rampant use of violence is kind of acceptable, right. And so you know, that's as far as I want to take my comments on like his position and his rhetoric leads to a culture that he wants to create. That includes that type of thing that happened yesterday.
Speaker 1:Well, I think, whenever it reaches out and touches you know, a rich white dude the reactions are just so different. You know, when you look at Donald Trump, put the flags at half mass.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for like a week. Right, this dude's not a government official. No, he's not elected. He never has been.
Speaker 1:He's not a billionaire like Trump's, in love with you know, yeah, but's frustrating that when it happens to you know again a rich white dude, they, they act like this and like I've seen so many videos of so many you know even news anchors out there saying, well, this must stop. And you know this is a ridiculous and it's like you guys are driving this did the fact, that was my big, the fact that it's on your doorstep now, like there was one uh, I can't remember if it was a representative yeah, yeah yeah, there was one representative that said you know that, uh, there's going to be a revolution and it'll be bloodless if the left lets it.
Speaker 1:You know so, like they've been saying these things for years, yeah, years they've been driving this stuff, yeah, and now that it's on their doorstep, oh, it's got to stop.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you don't point the guns at us right, I uh, for me, the, the media, what I saw, I was watching, and, of course, um news anchors are actors and to some degree, all right, they're on camera, so they're putting on an act and the act man you saw, they're bad actors.
Speaker 2:I want to say that they're not trained at acting, so they're really, really bad at it when they do it right, like Like really bad, totally see through, totally fake Right. And so everybody on CNN started hand wringing and all this is terrible and blah, blah, sad, sad, cry, cry, cry. But all of them vehemently hated Charlie Kirk, right, you know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying Like really deep down in the private conversation oh, that guy is divisive, he's terrible, he's magamouthpiece, he's, he's you know. The list of bad things about him would have been easily trotted out at any CNN, you know event. But then the the act. Oh, senseless killing, political violence, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they just trotted out cliches for about eight hours. And I was so disgusted because the dishonesty and disingenuousness of all those people. They were not being serious, right, like their true feelings were not on display there, their true thoughts were not being spoken to the camera and it was obvious.
Speaker 1:And I was like I'm just disgusted by this right Like it's always people pulling punches on from on the left side, you know, worrying about people's feelings on the right, and it's funny how emotional they get, you know. And so you know they try to be kind and nice and they still get yelled at for because one guy from MSNBC got fired. Did he get fired?
Speaker 2:I knew what happened, yeah. Then he said you know well. I mean, he said something that I thought and texted to my friend, which is a true statement of if you spew hate, you're going to have a lot of haters, right. Like, if you spew hate, people are going to hate you, right, because you become the face of that hate that you're talking about. Again, this doesn't justify violence or harm or being shot, but if your job is to create haters, you're going to have a lot of haters, right. And that's what the news anchor said. And he got fired. So now me and Adam, we can't fire each other. We're both I don't know nominated by the people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that guy using his First Amendment right Immediate repercussions.
Speaker 2:And he. All he said was what everybody else at MSNBC wanted to say. Right, and I'm not getting. He may have said something that was jerky. Have you ever watched Fox News Like it's nothing but jerk city over there all day, every day. Yeah, so they don't get fired. They get bonuses for owning the libs, right, but if a liberal person says was really on their mind, they're going to get burned at the stake. Oh, you know, and whatever I get it, that is how. That is the difference between the two. You can go way off the cuff over on the right side of politics. That they'll, they'll just kind of let you do it right, right, you go off the cuff on the left side and you get extra ostracized, right, you get kind of ran out, you know don't talk that way or you're not one of us.
Speaker 1:You get labeled you're socialist or communist so quickly and you know those words still carry so much taboo for everybody that it's easy to shut people up. When you start throwing those words around, we're on the right side. They're like oh, you're a fascist. Well, you know. You just don't understand what fascism means.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what yeah, right yeah.
Speaker 1:And they started trying to justify it and, like, rationalize it.
Speaker 2:But they'll make a lot of. I guess the different, the cultural differences, is that on the right they'll make a lot of excuses and a lot of um, just like poo poo away. When a right political figure does something that's outside of the bounds, right and and there's not a collective like brow beating that happens, everybody just kind of goes oh well, you know, he's a grown-up and probably might say something stupid every now and then. Yeah, and that's it, they don't, they don't turn their backs on them as much, right like it's just sort of goes.
Speaker 2:Oh well, you know he's a grownup and he probably might say something stupid every now and then and that's it. They don't. They don't turn their backs on them as much, right Like it's just sort of. Yeah, sometimes people say stupid stuff and you're still pretty much within the fold, right, but it's not that way over on the blue side. It's like hey, you know we will. We will gladly extricate you from the group and the right doesn't do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I always think about that, al Franken.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he got railroaded pretty quickly. He was a solid senator. So you know, even with the Charlie Kirk situation and the other shootings here locally, there's still a lot of world events going on. That again, one of the tactics is just wait for the next distraction. Yeah, um sure you know recently we've had a lot of those this week uh, yeah, you know, in the last you know couple more day, what was it?
Speaker 2:uh, about three days ago it was saturday morning, I think, is what's today, wednesday? Yeah, I think that if we're talking about the israel, saturday or sunday morning, yeah, so israel struck q.
Speaker 1:Israel struck Qatar in Qatar, and Qatar is like the Sweden, or not the Sweden, the Switzerland of the Middle East.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:They're the neutral site where the folks go to cause they can they talk to Iran? Well, they talk to Saudis, well, um, everybody just kind of gets along there, or it gets long enough, but but Al Jazeera is out of there, things like that. Yeah, so they're really just a neutral place. Yeah, and we have, you know, our folks there right outside Doha at LUD Air Base. So we have a large presence there, a lot of folks downtown. I haven't heard on any kind of like results of the strike.
Speaker 2:Well, the thing you know, as we talk about uh cutter being open for business, for you know that that being neutral and how that leads to the situation of. You know, terrorist organizations run their political headquarters out of cutter, right. Taliban's international offices are in cutter and always have been, since they left afghanistan during the war, and now they're back, of course, but they had offices in Qatar the entire war of Afghanistan. Taliban never went away, right. And so same thing with Hamas. Hamas has enough money that they can rent an office in Qatar, and guess what that means? You have a corporate headquarters, right. So Qatar is like that, right, I mean they're the Switzerland or Sweden or whatever. But but think more pirate island where you can go escape with your loot and nobody's going to bother you. Right, like I see it, more like that. You can be shady, you can be a criminal and we'll bring you.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So that's really what's going on over there is. That is, that they welcome terrorist organizations to set up camp because they pay rent, and that's it. They like money, and I mean that's why Donald Trump probably likes him so much, right, he's like everything's gold plated. Y'all know how to make money, you know. And so what happened there and I'll just offer my take on it, you know, other people think this too, but Israel was negotiating, you know, trying to get this last bit of hostages released. They weren't being genuine in that they didn't ever have any intention to really capitulate anything, right, israel didn't and Hamas doesn't. They're not really genuine either, right, like either one of them actually want to see a diplomatic outcome. So Israel hemmed and hawed last week and was like oh yeah, I think we're going to, we're about to sign the deal. Like everybody should get together. I think we're about to sign the deal. Everybody should get together in Qatar and make sure they're ready to sign the deal, and then once everybody got together they blew them up.
Speaker 2:They did, they did. They absolutely baited them to go there for a summit and then they were like, hey, basically they got into the signal chat with Pete and they were like, hey, make sure you're on the third floor at 10 o'clock, that's when we're going to sign all the papers Right, and then the 10th floor just got, you know, smoked.
Speaker 1:Is there anything specifically in the Geneva Convention on that?
Speaker 2:Like Israel, probably didn't sign it and doesn't care.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Internationally with impunity, never, no questions asked. They go all over the world and smoke people and don't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, nothing happens, yeah, so they're not gonna start worrying about international criminal law right now well, you know, curiosity to me, you know, because, like we do it too, you would think you were under truce conditions.
Speaker 2:Though you know, like again cutter is a gray zone when it comes to international stuff. Right, and we blow up stuff in other countries all the time without permission and no question. Again, no questions asked. The thing takes off from europe, flies all the way over to africa, blows something up and flies back to europe, doesn't even make the news, you know. So yeah, um, I, this is. This is fair play, man. There's no real international outcry. And the thing for me is Cutter was like hey, don't do that. And then they said you ruined your chance of getting the hostages back. No, they didn't. There was never a chance of getting the hostages back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think everybody was just kind of bluffing each other on that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and Cutter being this weird arbiter in the middle that has no skin in the game. But they're clearly on Hamas' side, right? Yeah, they just are right, Like they're definitely more interested in supporting Hamas than they are any progress with Israel.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I could definitely. They're more.
Speaker 2:Arabic. They're Arabic people, right. I mean, like the Palestinian connection there to them is culturally, it makes more sense, right? And so if they're going to be fair, you know, gamesmen, they're still always going to heavily lean towards Hamas versus anything Israel wants to bring to the table, right? So that's why Israel is like we don't care, we'll blow everything up over there, we don't care, and guess what's not going to happen. America's not going to happen.
Speaker 1:America's not going to tell us to stop doing it, so we're just going to keep doing it and that's what I keep telling people is, when Israel gets struck against and they face that existential crisis, they're not afraid to launch their nukes. They will turn that entire place to glass before they give up any kind of territory.
Speaker 2:I agree, they would smoke off every nuke before they would cease to exist. Yeah, yeah, if that was their death cry, they would do it Right, yeah.
Speaker 1:So yeah, people don't understand the mindset that they have over there where, like you said, that they'll just go do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're operating with impunity as far as they're concerned. Right, I mean, they've had attacks in Syria, iran, basically every country around there. At this point, they've killed some leaders in you know. So they did the same thing. The US response was very minor. You know, donald Trump sent out a you know truth tweet, was like that's not cool, but apparently they told him right, like before it happened. Yeah, they were like, hey, we're gonna blow these guys up and like, of course, the us didn't say anything right okay, that's fine yeah, so um.
Speaker 1:Another thing that uh is going on in the news worldwide is nepal, their prime minister, getting chased out. Have you been?
Speaker 2:I just saw, uh, one or two headlines yesterday, but didn't really get to dig into it. Yeah, what's going on there?
Speaker 1:Like the videos that are coming out. Are you know? People stormed the finance minister's house, chased him out into the street, beaten him. The prime minister was getting his butt whooped by some protesters, and what's weird is I keep calling it a Gen Z protest, which I just think is strange.
Speaker 2:Oh, it was young people that were out on the streets. That was the headline I saw. I was like how did the young people get convinced to go to the streets? I mean TikTok, of course, right, right.
Speaker 1:Yes, the palaces, though, are on fire. They did a revolution.
Speaker 2:A real revolution.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they actually overthrew their government there and strip-livestreamed it. It was kind of crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there, um, and strip live streamed it. Yeah, it was kind of crazy. Yeah, yeah, that is true, um and the. Uh, I'm not sure what was. What was the initial reason for that right like? Is it just lack of faith in the government? Was the government?
Speaker 1:corrupt. Yeah, the way that it started at the finance ministers I'm thinking something there, yeah, like they. Just, if it was like a, you know, a housing crisis situation, yeah, where we had a the government kind of put us on a take it money, right, yeah, so I don't know the cause of it, but it seemed just.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, from the civil unrest side, trump a few weeks ago. So he started the cleanup DC you thing, and then he was like I would never go to dinner in DC. It's just vagrants and criminals shooting each other, bleeding everywhere, right.
Speaker 2:And he's like that's not true, yeah. But then he said we're going to clean up the streets and then I'm going to go have dinner in town. Right, Like why? Why even you have the white house? Like no president ever just goes and catches dinner out in town that's not a thing. Right, Like no president ever just goes and catches dinner out in town that's not a thing. And so he made a stunt out of it. It was a hundred yard walk.
Speaker 2:And then the protesters were there, and so as much as he thought, oh, the National Guard is just there, no protesters would ever come. I'm surrounded by Secret Service and National Guard. I'm in a perfect bubble.
Speaker 1:They were already in the restaurant.
Speaker 2:They were there when he got there, you know. So, yeah, it's just, I love it. You know that, like, even with all of that, thousands of troops, and you still got heckled. Yeah, the second you stepped out of your house you still got heckled, because that's legal and there's no amount of soldiers that are going to stop people from heckling you.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying and I can't remember what they were yelling at him. It was something disgusting, you know, like Epstein related or something like that Like he kind of like danced with it. Did you see that? Oh no, I didn't see that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, where, like he kind of like he was like bopping along with it. Yeah, he, until he has any kind of accountability, he thinks it's all a joke. Yeah, you know, it said that the, uh, the Epstein files, though I think is a great way to like get people to come together and actually there's a rattly cry behind you know, uh, protecting victims versus you know, protecting the perpetrators, right and that that's a pretty unifying concept, you right for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, and you know, kind of to tie it into the last topic that we got on the board here, uh, recently one of the old kgb officers came out and said that putin has, like, uh, a kiddie sex tape with trump and that's the compromise that he has on him. Just as a side note to let's release the episode, throw something out there. Yeah, but Russia recently went into Poland with their drones and actually they launched from Belarus. Okay, and Belarus, you know, said that they were Russian drones. It sounded like there was a miscommunication between Russia and Belarus. Yeah, because Russia's trying to say, no, it wasn't us, and Belarus was like, yeah, it was them, they sent it from our land. So it was kind of a Keystone Cop moment for them. Yeah, but, yeah, they launched drones or vehicles into another sovereign nation and Poland is wanting to use Clause 4. Yeah, like it is, you know, an attack on one, an attack on all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the last little bit of news I saw on that was that right now Russia is saying like oh yeah, we invaded their airspace, but we weren't actually. We were just flying by.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we were just passing through and there was no target in Poland and we did not attack Poland, we just happened to cross their airspace. And it's like, yeah, you don't just happen. Right, the military aircraft, you know exactly where you're going, you know exactly where the boundaries are. There's no doubt whether you're in the right airspace or not. If your instruments are working, there's no doubt right. And drones don't work if their instruments aren't working right. There was no human flying them around, so the instruments were working and everybody that was in control of those drones knew exactly where they were. And I mean, from a technology perspective, you can just call BS all day on like, oh, it was an accidental incursion. No, it was not.
Speaker 1:No way. We see it all the time in our own airspace, where they'll fly next to Alaska and they'll start bumping in. And like the concerns there is, if they shoot off a hypersonic, they can put, you know, a nuke warhead on there, have it over the middle of the U? S and we can't track that and light it off. So every time they come and buzz us, it makes the news because it's a huge deal. Well, like, they know these laws, they know the boundaries and, yeah, they do these things.
Speaker 2:Um, oh yeah, it's a it's a bling that's Airplanes and submarines right, they do both. Oh yeah, They'll break the line with the submarine as well. Yeah, and pop up, you know, 30 miles off of Virginia Beach, right? And it's like no, don't do that. You know, stop it, you know yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah. It's just nuts that you know again. They act with impunity, though, especially with this administration. They can do whatever they want. They're not going to get a slap on the wrist from the US for this, you know. Same thing with Israel.
Speaker 2:It's just insane. I mean, as we talked about, I think it was last week where Putin went to the you know Axis of Evil summit and he and we know we said that he most likely told the other leaders there hey, if you got anything on the back burner, it's time to put it on the front burner right. Like, get to work, because you can do whatever you want. And I feel like this is just another step in that direction.
Speaker 1:I'm going.
Speaker 2:Let's see what happens. I'll bet nothing happens. I'll bet I can do whatever I want, Right? And he's rolling those dice, you know, just like Trump's pushing boundaries on our culture, he's pushing boundaries on Europe. They both have that same we're going to break the rules, we're going to break the system that makes the rules. That's the mentality for both of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and with our media being distracted for at least the next 24 hours, this story will get pushed and probably won't go anywhere.
Speaker 2:I've got an interesting thing I think to wrap up, maybe wrap up the episode with, it's a little technology looking to the future, right? So for all of our listeners, I work in the space industry and I'm always around cutting edge stuff that's going into orbit with quantum technology, quantum mechanics, where there are ways to create magnetic, basically maps of the magnetosphere around the earth and all the way down to the surface of the earth and you can use one tiny little piece of hardware to sense changes in the magnetosphere in a way that are currently just impossible to sense. Right, like the level of accuracy just can't be achieved with like transistors. Right, like the level of accuracy just can't be achieved with like transistors, right, but these quantum things can measure the wobble of something that's affected by magnetic pull, right, because it's an electromagnetic particle, and so the level of detail you get there is like orders of magnitude more sensitive. So if you can make these tools they're being made now, not really available yet, but you can use magnets you can use quantum technology along with the magnetosphere to see metal, basically to be able to detect where heavy metallic objects are.
Speaker 2:Submarines under the water become totally visible because the water does not attenuate magnetism in this setting Right.
Speaker 2:And so the device being centered over the Atlantic Ocean can feel the movement of a submarine under the ocean because it's pulling magnetic waves. It's got a magnetic center to it, right, that submarine has a magnetic gravity, if you will. Center to it, right, that submarine has a magnetic gravity, if you will. And so as it pulls that magnetic field, that one little particle floating over the middle of the Atlantic ocean in this satellite can see everything under the ocean, and so there's no longer you can't hide under the ocean, and sonar and classic radar technologies don't matter anymore, because if you're made out of metal, we will find you, and so that metal, we will find you. And so that's that's coming, and that's amazing and that will change the the landscape of warfare. If you can see every single thing under the ocean and think decoys, right now, decoys, imagery, decoys can be very convincing, but they're made out of materials that are not the same material as an actual upgraded fighter jet, right, yeah? So guess what? Well, no, exactly, there's four fighter jets on that runway and 15 decoys.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Instantly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that pretty much kicks one of the legs out of the nuclear triad.
Speaker 2:You won't be able to sneak up on it anymore, right, I mean, you just be more aggressive. You have to be more uh out front with like hey, guess what? We're doing? Patrols and we're going to be offensive towards you, right, or you start, you print your you know 3d print, your submarines and plastic, I don't know what, right? So that's crazy. But yeah, that's coming and that would be one. You don't need 20 sensors. You know just a couple of sensors that are able to correlate with each other so that they're measuring. You know some waypoints in the magnetosphere and then everything that moves underneath of them just is tugging, that yarn that connects everything and you can feel the tugs on the spider web, if you will, you know. So it's amazing, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:Huh, yeah. Well, I don't want to wrap up on this. I want to wrap up on one last thing here. Uh, so a couple of weeks ago, you know, you read my thing for, uh, the veterans action council for getting cannabis and things like that. Um, you are also on that list. Uh, nominated you. It's funny that they asked for our state. So your state says Oklahoma next to it instead of Texas. Yes, so mine says Texas instead of Michigan.
Speaker 2:And I'm like.
Speaker 1:Oh, I don't know, yeah.
Speaker 2:And when you told me you were born in Texas, I was like why? Why haven't you never said that before? When I go off about Texas all the time, you won't own it.
Speaker 1:Cause it was. It was Austin, texas, so I mean it kind of makes sense. It's the most liberal part of Texas.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:But I was only there for like two years, and see, that was me, Oklahoma.
Speaker 1:I was born there and left when I was two years old I had an accent when I went back up in Michigan Got made fun of a lot. Oh yeah, sure, but yeah, you do a ton of work ever since you've retired. But a retired 20-year military intelligence analyst has become a veteran cannabis advocate and organizer In New Mexico. He founded the New Mexico Veterans Cannabis Alliance to connect veteran entrepreneurs and patients with resources as the market transitioned from medical to adult use. He also co-founded a cannabis farm and has utilized media to promote veteran access and business inclusion. Now based in Colorado Springs, he's appeared on Veteran Focus Podcast to highlight privacy issues for veterans using cannabis and to oppose municipal efforts to block voter-approved cannabis sales, framing safe, legal access as harm reduction for working veterans.
Speaker 1:So, from the whole community, thank you. And one thing I really appreciate about what you know, your kind of story and your path with you know cannabis and working with veterans. It's not just there, but it's in the church too, and you talk about your relationship with you know Christ and your use of cannabis, which you know is contradictory to the main cultural understanding. Yeah, just, the honesty itself is contradictory to a lot of Christianity. Oh sure, fair. But you have these conversations and you're comfortable with it, and it's inspiring to listen to you talk about these things, and so thank you for doing all that.
Speaker 2:I appreciate that, adam. Yeah, it's a work of things, and so thank you for doing all that. I appreciate that, adam. Yeah, um, it's a work of passion and um, you know, I do it for free and I enjoy it and I've always it's just been important to me. So thanks, man yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, cool. Well, we're going to keep doing stuff like this in the community and keep trying to make impacts where we can um tune in next week for another after the left face and uh, we.
